The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
304: How Are We Still here? with Rebecca Sebastian
Description:
Have you ever felt like you wanted to quit the yoga industry? You are not alone. Shannon Crow, host of The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast, and Rebecca Sebastian, host of the Working in Yoga Podcast, chat about what it’s like to feel like quitting - and why they have stayed on and continued their work in this space.
Rebecca Sebastian has been teaching yoga for 20 years and working as a yoga therapist for a decade. She is also a yoga studio owner, yoga non-profit founder, and the host of the Working In Yoga podcast. She isn’t afraid to stand up for human rights and yoga – and she also isn’t afraid to discuss tough topics in the yoga industry.
Shannon and Rebecca discuss some of the big topics that have come up in the yoga industry in 2022. They talk about how yoga teachers are feeling isolated, competition in the industry, some toxic practices that have taken hold, and what we can do about it. They also explore what teaching yoga may look like in 2023, marketing for yoga teachers, how to build a better yoga industry going forward, and much more.
Key Takeaways:
[2:37] This episode was originally recorded for Rebecca Sebastian's podcast, Working in Yoga. Shannon and Rebecca discuss how they have continued in the work they do despite wanting to quit.
[5:29] With everything that has happened in the yoga industry in 2022, why are Rebecca and Shannon still here?
[9:05] Many yoga teachers feel isolated in this profession.
[11:47] Everyone in the yoga industry is trying to navigate building their business as best as they can but some things can create a toxic environment. How do Shannon and Rebecca deal with negative elements like diet culture in the industry.
[17:26] Rebecca encourages us to talk more about the benefits of yoga, like nervous system regulation.
[21:27] What is the yoga industry going to look like in 2023 in terms of virtual and in-person classes?
[29:26] Sadie Mardini responds to Rebecca's question about how yoga teachers and studios who had been online before the pandemic were impacted by everyone else moving online.
[31:15] Shannon pops in with a reminder to put yourself out there and to create your website if you don't have one!
[35:11] What does the competitiveness of the industry look like in 2022?
[37:54] Rebecca invites listeners to create a meet up to meet people in your local community.
[42:54] You can also find great communities of yoga teachers online to connect with.
[45:52] Shannon shares a tip for anyone running a Facebook group to moderate posts.
[48:39] Rebecca encourages us not to limit ourselves. The yoga's enough all on its own.
[49:26] Shannon and Rebecca discuss marketing in yoga.
[52:38] Rebecca and Shannon reflect on the things that made them think about quitting the yoga industry in 2022.
[58:42] There are some parallels between yoga and entrepreneurship.
[62:45] Does Rebecca think about building her business just to sell it? Shannon and Rebecca discuss what that could mean and how it might work.
[70:40] What is your retirement plan as a yoga teacher?
[71:46] Rebecca calls out how unsustainable the career path is in the yoga industry and shares some thoughts about how things can be done differently.
[76:52] The power dynamic in the yoga industry needs to be reexamined.
[81:12] What are Rebecca and Shannon hopeful and excited about for 2023?
[89:50] Shannon shares some final thoughts.
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Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"We need to acknowledge this has been another hard year for us for our industry. Like, you're not alone." - Rebecca
"I think that makes our industry more powerful and more impactful overall when we're able to share stories with each other." - Rebecca
"The yoga's enough all on its own." - Rebecca
"How we sell what we're selling matters." - Rebecca
"Yoga in itself is a spiritual discipline that asks you to reevaluate and rethink literally every fiber of your being. Guess what entrepreneurship is?" - Rebecca
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303: Ayurveda for Better Digestion with Mona Warner
Description:
Ayurveda is considered yoga’s sister science but it is still not widely understood in the yoga community. Why is there such a strong focus on digestion in Ayurveda and how does it tie in with yoga? Mona Warner shares her expertise on Ayurveda and digestion.
Mona is a warm and joyful educator who leads by example. Her depth of knowledge, passion, and dedication to the practices of Āyurveda and Yoga are evident in her classes. Mona offers deliberate and mindful practices, details on why certain things are done in certain ways, and a grounded sense of humor. She shares approaches to well-being for anyone who needs to learn. Mona has also authored several books, including her latest, Ayurveda's Three Pillars of Health.
Mona breaks down what Ayurveda is and how it intersects with yoga in a holistic sense. She explains why there is such a strong focus on digestion and Agni in Ayurveda and why routines and schedules are so important to digestion, and more. Mona also shares tips around improving digestion, about prana, and finding balance in our lives,
This is a rich conversation for anyone who’s keen to learn more about Ayurveda.
Key Takeaways:
[3:01] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Mona Warner.
[6:21] How did Mona get into working with Ayurveda?
[9:56] What is Ayurveda?
[12:40] Mona explains some things we need to understand about digestion and elimination from the perspective of Ayurveda.
[19:16] How does the body's Agni (and Ayurveda, from a broader perspective) tie in with yoga?
[26:42] Mona explains more about how Ayurveda and yoga both encourage people to move towards a balanced mind - and how this can help achieve health.
[30:16] Shannon shares an experience she recently had attending an online workshop.
[34:04] What are some routines and practices that can help improve digestion?
[36:50] Should everyone have the same routines or does it differ for each person?
[38:55] What are some things we need to be mindful of in terms of how we are pooping and what our bowel movements look like?
[42:36] What is something about digestion that Mona wishes everyone knew?
[44:08] What else are we digesting apart from food?
[51:08] How does Mona work with people now through the pandemic and how are they doing?
[54:27] Connect with Mona and learn more from her via her book and website.
[56:58] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this conversation with Mona.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"Ayurveda is this system that has created a whole bunch of different maps that lets us navigate the terrain of life."
"Ayurveda has the maps, the tools, and the ability to help us live a fruitful and a health-filled life."
"Our Agni, our digestive fire, is the sun of our individual solar system or incarnation."
"For yoga, the traditional goal is enlightenment. For Ayurveda, the traditional goal is health."
"Ayurveda uses this idea of working with the mind through yoga techniques of mantra, meditation, etc. all the time because so many causative factors of disease actually start in the mind."
"Whether you like schedules or not, your biology does and your Agni does."
"It's important to recognize there's a difference between what you like and what is health-promoting and good for you."
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302: Yoga for Grief & Loss with Susan Andersen
Description:
Most people have personal experiences with loss in its many forms - loss of a loved one or pet, loss of a home or job or business, and even during COVID, the loss of normalcy. Grief is a normal part of loss but how can yoga support us in these times? Susan “Sue” Andersen shares her insights.
Sue works with people who have experienced loss and are grieving through yoga and movement. Meditation, mindfulness and breath work are key elements that Sue incorporates into her teaching to connect the physical to the spiritual practice. Her goal is to help students find their own practice and to enjoy all the benefits yoga brings.
Sue shares how she got into yoga and grief work after her son died, why yoga is a beneficial tool in navigating grief and loss, and how we can support our yoga students when they come to us with their grief. She also explains the role yoga can play in moving through self-blame and criticism, releasing emotions like anger, shame, and guilt, and why grief looks different for everyone.
This episode is a must-listen for every yoga teacher as we support people who will inevitably encounter loss and grief in their lives.
Key Takeaways:
[3:07] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Susan Andersen.
[6:43] What does Sue do and who does she do it for?
[7:14] How did Su get into doing this work?
[9:50] What is grief?
[14:42] Why is yoga effective for grief?
[17:21] What can yoga teachers do when a student expresses their loss and grief to them?
[19:50] What are some things that wouldn't be helpful when a student is dealing with grief?
[22:45] Shannon pops in to share some feedback from Carly, a yoga teacher who is using OfferingTree for her website.
[25:07] What are some of the differences between a regular yoga class and a specialty yoga class for grief?
[33:39] Does Sue talk about grief in her sessions? Is it helpful?
[36:35] What has Sue learned from her personal experience of grief that she wishes she had known at the beginning?
[39:20] What would Sue say to yoga teachers who are personally dealing with grief?
[41:16] Connect with Sue and learn more from her via her website and on YouTube.
[42:17] Sue gives a shout out to Paul Denniston of Grief Yoga.
[43:12] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this interview.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"When we experience loss, we grieve."
"All the things that we talk about in these programs can help for any type of grief because it's releasing the emotion from the body."
"You can't fix something ... you want to just let that person know that you're there."
"In general, I don't think any of us rest enough. In particular, if you're holding a lot of grief or stress, you're probably resting even less."
"It is really important to let all of these emotions out and not hold anything in."
"Everybody's grief is different. Their timeline is different."
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301: Trauma and Business Ownership with Nicole Lewis-Keeber
Description:
Everyone goes through events and/or experiences that cause trauma, and they can have an impact on how we show up in and run our businesses. Yet, this isn’t something people often talk about. Nicole Lewis-Keeber shares their insights about navigating business ownership and trauma.
Nicole Lewis-Keeber is a business therapist and mindset coach for small business owners, entrepreneurs and leaders. She is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with a Masters in Social Work and a rich experience of working as a therapist. Nicole is also certified in Brené Brown’s The Daring Way™ and Dare To Lead™ methodologies and provides trainings and mentoring for those who want to become daring leaders. They have combined their experience as a therapist and training as a coach to offer therapeutic and business solutions.
Nicole explains how trauma ties into creating and running our own business, including what kind of trauma "counts", why starting a business involves diving into our "stuff", and why our “big why” is likely connected to childhood trauma. They also share more about the importance of therapy as an entrepreneur, dealing with burnout, and why we need to separate ourselves from our businesses. If you are keen to learn more about how to create a business you love, this is a must-listen.
Key Takeaways:
[3:35] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Nicole Lewis-Keeber.
[5:38] What does Nicole do and who do they do it for?
[6:47] Does everyone have childhood trauma?
[8:39] What does trauma have to do with business?
[10:04] How do we figure out the traumatic events in our childhoods that inform our deeper 'why', and what is the value of figuring that out?
[12:35] What are some examples of how our deeper 'why' tied to trauma can show up as entrepreneurs in the health and wellness space?
[15:33] How else can this show up in our businesses?
[20:02] Nicole shares some ways that we can start to help ourselves if we recognize that there were some traumatic events in our childhoods that may be playing out in our businesses.
[23:53] Shannon gives a shout out to the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[25:45] Shannon and Nicole discuss procrastination and how that ties in with everything else.
[28:05] What other things can we do in coming to terms with how our trauma influences our business?
[30:37] For yoga teachers, it can be more difficult to separate themselves from their business of teaching yoga because of how intertwined their lives can be to yoga. What are Nicole's thoughts on that?
[32:29] Nicole shares their thoughts on the discomfort that yoga teachers may have around bringing business into their work with yoga.
[35:46] Nicole shares how you can work with her if you are keen on getting more of their expert insight into how your traumas may be informing your business.
[37:35] What is something Nicole wishes entrepreneurs knew or understood as they're facing the daily challenges of running a business?
[39:18] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this interview with Nicole and encourages you to choose one thing that really resonated for you and implement that.
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Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"I've not met anyone yet who hasn't had some kind of traumatic event in childhood that changed things for them."
"All the systems around us also can be very traumatic."
"A lot of the business schools and a lot of coaches would like you to believe that all you need is a sales plan, a marketing plan, business plan, but I totally believe that you need an emotional sustainability plan for your business."
"We start to modify ourselves and how we operate to try and feel safe because of those experiences and that changes how we see ourselves and what we believe is possible for us over time and how we value ourselves."
"Big T Trauma explodes, little T trauma erodes, but they are both strong enough to move a mountain."
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300: Celebrating 300 Episodes! with Shannon Crow
Description:
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast celebrates 300 episodes! In this milestone episode, host Shannon Crow talks about some of the things that have helped her stay consistent with putting out the podcast and answers some questions from listeners!
We are so grateful for your support through these 300 episodes and look forward to bringing you more episodes that will help you stay connected to the information and inspiration that will support you as you build your yoga business!
Key Takeaways:
[2:25] Shannon celebrates 300 episodes of the podcast!
[4:15] Aruna sent in the first question. What was the first thing Shannon outsourced to help her stay consistent and get to 300 episodes and what would she never let go of?
[11:30] Shannon gives a shout out of thanks to sponsor, OfferingTree and shares a conversation she had with a fellow yoga teacher, Sarah Villamil, about her experience with OfferingTree.
[14:45] Renee has another question for Shannon. What were the top three things that Shannon has learned from all her guests?
[25:54] What are the top three things you have learned from this podcast?
[30:59] Thank you dear listener for all your support through these 300 episodes!
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Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"Two things have helped me get to this point of 300 episodes. That is feeling the fear and doing it anyway. And also letting my message be louder than my doubts and my fears."
"If there is something that you're doing over and over again and you're not getting a lot of joy out of it and it's an automated task, that is something to look at to pass on to someone else."
"Communicate and listen to understand, not to be understood."
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299: Yoga for Menopause with Niamh Daly
Description:
About half the world’s population experiences menopause at some point in their lives, yet it is still not very well understood and people at this stage of their life may not get the support they need. Niamh Daly fills in some of the gaps we may have in our understanding and knowledge of menopause.
Niamh teaches and supports women in navigating life changes, especially menopause, whether medically, surgically, prematurely or naturally induced, through adapted yoga and nutrition. She trains yoga teachers worldwide to understand menopause and the stages immediately preceding, and after, and how much support they can give through additions to, and enhancements of the canon of yoga.
As yoga teachers who are working with people who are in this peri, menopausal, menopause, postmenopausal phase, we need to understand how we can better support them. Niamh explains the fluctuating nature of peri-menopause, how nutrition and exercise requirements may change for people at this stage, and why yoga is beneficial for them. She also questions why prenatal yoga and pregnancy is covered in many YTTs but not any of the menopausal stages, despite that being something more relevant and applicable to many people.
Key Takeaways:
[3:29] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Niamh Daly.
[7:53] What does Niamh do and who does she do it for?
[10:52] How do we know when we or our students are in the perimenopause stage? Niamh explains that there is actually a stage before perimenopause that isn't often talked about.
[16:50] People in the late reproductive stage can have symptoms that mimic perimenopause or even conditions related to thyroid function. How can people get a definitive answer about what is really causing the changes in their body?
[19:58] Shannon pops in with a snippet of a conversation she had with Ashley Hagen about OfferingTree.
[23:51] How does yoga help with perimenopause?
[30:29] Shannon and Niamh discuss the research supporting the idea that yoga is beneficial for menopause.
[32:17] There is a huge lack of education around this topic despite the fact that half the population goes through menopause and a large number of yoga teachers are also in this demographic.
[33:38] Where can yoga teachers learn more about yoga for menopause and how to better serve this segment of the population?
[38:03] Niamh shares a bit more about health at every size and how that impacts perimenopause.
[43:02] Language is also a big part of the education that Niamh offers.
[44:36] Reach out to Niamh to connect and learn more.
[45:52] Continue the conversation! Shannon shares some of her key takeaways - what are yours?
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Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"There has been research in yoga for serotonin, yoga for oxytocin, yoga for bones, yoga for heart health, yoga for brain health, yoga for sleep, all of which coming together, create a very convincing pool of evidence to support the use of yoga to help women through menopause."
"Women spend more time in the perimenopausal transition and post menopausal then they do pregnant and yet there are no first line yoga teacher trainings that really even mention menopause in the training."
"I'm really in the business of trying to help women befriend their changes and their body through menopause and beyond and before menopause."
"We need to learn to embrace the changes because otherwise, we're fighting ourselves till the day we die."
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298: Photo Shoot Stories (Listener Emails) with Shannon Crow
Description:
When Shannon sent out an email about Episode 294 with Gabriela Fearn about how to plan a yoga photo shoot, she received a lot of emails from listeners! It is such a highlight to get emails from listeners sharing their experiences. Shannon reads some of the stories Connected Yoga Teachers have shared with her about their experiences doing photoshoots for their businesses.
Have a listen if you are feeling alone and isolated as a yoga entrepreneur and connect with the wonderful community of Connected Yoga Teachers in the Facebook group as well.
Key Takeaways:
[3:54] Shannon invites you to share your questions, thoughts, and comments about the podcast. There are a few ways you can do this!
[5:37] Shannon received a lot of emails from listeners about episode 294 - How to Plan a Yoga Photo Shoot with Gabriela Fearn.
[5:37] Shannon shares some tips to get better engagement from her community in emails.
[8:24] Shannon shares Beth's email reply about photoshoots.
[10:40] Jenay writes about her experience with photoshoots.
[12:04] Shannon pops in with a bit of news and a shout out of thanks to OfferingTree.
[14:32] Reneé Clair, who was a guest on the podcast in episode 167, wrote in about her photoshoot experience not doing yoga poses.
[16:03] Another listener, Helen, did a photoshoot in a park with a photographer who offered a unique arrangement.
[18:01] The last email is from Gail. Shannon and Gail have both used the same photographer and had similar experiences.
[21:14] Hang out with Shannon on a live call in Pelvic Health Professionals!
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Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
“I let go of fancy or challenging poses and played. She was able to capture these sweet, inward-focused moments of me practicing.” - Email from Beth
“It's not the poses that were important but, rather, the energy depicted.” - Email from Jenay
“I felt more confident though when not striking a "pose" - yoga pose that is!” - Email from Renee
“I think you need someone to have a sense of who you are to bring out the best.” - Email from Gail
“The photographer talked about how a fancy camera was not needed. That anyone could do this work – with an iPhone and some imagination on how to capture the shots.” - Shannon
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297: Yoga Philosophy & Business with Rebecca Sebastian
Description:
As yoga teachers, we can feel like making money and running a yoga business is out of alignment with yoga and the philosophy of yoga. This can cause us to struggle with marketing and charging for our services. Why does this happen and how can we overcome it? Rebecca Sebastian shares her insights.
Rebecca Sebastian has been teaching yoga for 20 years and working as a yoga therapist for a decade. She is also a yoga studio owner, yoga non-profit Founder, and the host of the Working In Yoga podcast. She isn’t afraid to stand up for human rights and yoga - and she also isn’t afraid to talk about making money as a yoga teacher.
In this conversation, Rebecca shares her thoughts on why yoga teachers are struggling to make money and be okay with making money, and why we all need to double our prices (today). She explains why making our offerings more accessible doesn’t necessarily mean lowering the price and how we can help increase access to yoga while still making a sustainable living. Rebecca gives tips on what to do when you don’t feel comfortable “selling” yoga and explains how yoga philosophy fits in with running a yoga business.
If you are struggling to make money as a yoga teacher and feeling like marketing and business isn’t in alignment with yoga, this episode is a great pep talk.
Key Takeaways:
[0:38] sponsors - OT, PHP
[2:45] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Rebecca Sebastian
[7:41] What does Rebecca do and who does she do it for?
[8:30] Why do yoga teachers struggle to make money and feel comfortable making money?
[11:25] Other than doubling our prices, how can we as yoga teachers reconcile how we view yoga philosophy and making a sustainable living with yoga?
[16:33] Rebecca speaks about why many people have relationships with money that are rooted in shame and guilt.
[18:31] We put a lot of judgements on wealth, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the way - we are positioned to radically redistribute wealth.
[21:38] Rebecca reflects on how some of the conversations we may be having around cultural appropriation and whitewashing in the yoga world may not be shifting the needle but merely adding shame to the conversation. We need to have these conversations and find ways to make a sustainable living in alignment with the teachings of yoga.
[23:02] How does Rebecca help yoga teachers with pricing?
[26:59] Shannon pops in with a shout out of thanks to the team at Offering Tree.
[29:15] Shannon and Rebecca discuss some other ways to determine pricing for yoga offerings.
[31:34] Rebecca invites us to unpack any of our thoughts that are laced with shame and guilt around money.
[32:45] What advice does Rebecca have for yoga teachers who are feeling resistant to marketing and the business side of teaching yoga?
[35:25] What are some resources that Rebecca recommends for unpacking money stuff?
[37:30] How can we tackle that competitive mindset that may come up?
[40:37] What does Rebecca wish yoga teachers knew about how yoga philosophy goes well with business?
[44:21] What final thoughts does Rebecca have for yoga teachers as they start to get comfortable with unpacking money stuff and increasing their rates?
[48:49] Connect with Rebecca and learn more from her on social media or via email.
[50:02] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this conversation with Rebecca.
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Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"We've taken it to the point where it's not okay to want a sustainable living and that's just silliness... It's okay to make money as a yoga professional."
"The truth of the matter is that if you want to be of service, you have to make enough money to not be the person who needs help."
"If good humans have conscious moral effort to make money and do good with it, we can change how this works."
"Yoga is this amazing tradition, the spiritual discipline - stop selling it. Sell something else and charge a premium price for it."
"I want you to find your humans and I want you to charge them enough money for you to make a living."
"I believe that you can make money and create impact and do good things. It's not an either/or, it can be a both/and."
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296: Can Science & Spirituality Co-Exist? with Stevie Inghram
Description:
There has always been some friction between science and spirituality. Some people may even think they are polar opposites that cannot co-exist. Stevie Inghram shares some of their insights about the integration of science and spirituality and their intersection with modern medicine & holistic health/medicine.
Stevie Inghram is a Queer & Trans Feminine Yoga Therapist who holds a Master of Science in Yoga Therapy and has been teaching yoga for over a decade. As a Yoga Therapist, Stevie’s primary work is focused on healing the trauma that is so pervasive in the queer and transgender communities. Stevie also hosts a podcast called Queer Story Time via Instagram that is focused on sharing stories from the gender and sexually expansive (GSE) communities and advocates for expanding GSE competencies in healthcare training programs. Stevie teaches GSE competencies at several Yoga Therapy Training programs and is writing on the topic for Yoga Therapy Today while also being a passionate advocate for science & evidence-informed practice in the holistic medicine world. They are a strong believer that a middle ground can truly be found, one that simultaneously respects the scientific method and cares for the whole-person.
Stevie shares more about their background and how they came to be passionate about both science and spirituality. He explains how science and spirituality are both human endeavors of discovery, and why people think we have to choose between them. Stevie also shares their thoughts on spiritual bypassing in yoga, what feels toxic in yoga spaces, and how we can nurture our spirituality while also promoting science. If you have been wondering how you can practice and communicate your yoga while still leaning towards science and combating misinformation.
Key Takeaways:
[2:45] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Stevie Inghram.
[5:35] What does Stevie do and who do they do it for?
[7:13] Stevie is studying to be a naturopathic doctor. They share a little more about it.
[9:05] When did Stevie's yoga journey begin?
[11:26] What are Stevie's thoughts on the idea that you can either follow science or spirituality but not both?
[16:10] It's possible that we will never have the science to explain some of what happens in yoga. How does Stevie balance that in their own teaching, practice, and life?
[20:48] Shannon started leaning heavily into science since the pandemic because she was trying to shift the pendulum in the yoga world. Did Stevie have a similar experience?
[25:04] Spiritual bypassing is something Shannon has noticed in the yoga world. What does it look like and what are some examples of it?
[31:48] Shannon pops in to give a shout out of thanks to sponsor, Offering Tree.
[33:37] How can we nurture the spirituality side of things even as we hold on to science?
[42:09] It can get very tiring to constantly talk about science, and that's when we can ask ourselves "is this causing me suffering?"
[44:47] What is Stevie's advice for someone who encounters misinformation or anti-science sentiment being spread in a yoga context?
[54:58] Learn more from Stevie and find out more about their work on Instagram and Tiktok.
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Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"So much in this world is divisive and divided and I don't think that it is beneficial to any of us as yogis to be continuing to propagate this idea that science and spirituality are separate. They're really not.”
“Science and spirituality are both human endeavors of discovery."
"The thing that science and spirituality share in common is um they're both Systems of Discovery."
“The reality is spirituality creates meaning and value and connection in people's lives. And the truth of the matter is we don't need science to explain that to us."
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295: Make Money Teaching Yoga with Betty Welsh
Description:
How can yoga teachers make money? Particularly if they don’t have an online presence, is it possible to build a profitable and sustainable yoga business? Betty Welsh has done just that and is on the podcast to share her journey.
Betty Welsh is a certified yoga teacher and Thai Massage practitioner. She and her husband Barrie live on the water in a small community outside of Owen Sound. This is where Betty connected with Shannon who was teaching yoga classes at that time. Betty is artistic, full of stories and passionate about sharing yoga with her local community. It is evident how much care Betty gives to her friends, family, and yoga students.
Betty shares more about how she finds students in her local community without having a website, Facebook page, email list, or any other online presence or marketing strategy. She explains how she gets new students to come to her classes and why getting students to register has been a powerful tool for that consistency. It is inspirational to listen to Betty’s journey of growing her offerings and expanding her classes to build a sustainable yoga business that provides a consistent income - and you are sure to take away some ideas you can use in your yoga business too.
Key Takeaways:
[3:39] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Betty Welsh.
[7:30] Betty doesn't have an online presence yet runs a successful yoga business. She shares a little about her journey.
[9:12] What made Betty want to move to her home studio?
[10:23] Betty finds new students in her community through in-person techniques.
[11:45] Betty has a paint and wallpaper business that she's been running for over 37 years. How did she build that business?
[12:26] How did Betty's regular students find out about her?
[13:39] Betty teaches 7-9 classes each week and makes a steady income doing that.
[15:54] Shannon shares an update about Betty's businesses since this episode was recorded.
[17:20] How does teaching in the church (where Betty could have more students) compare to teaching out of her home studio?
[18:23] What is Betty's advice to yoga teachers who don't want to have an online presence for their yoga business?
[20:37] Betty sends text messages to people who may be interested in her upcoming classes!
[21:59] What does Betty recommend for yoga teachers who may be a little shy about talking to people in person about yoga?
[23:14] Betty tries to make her offering special in a way.
[24:44] How does Betty run the financial parts of her business?
[26:21] Shannon shares some words from a Connected Yoga Teacher who uses OfferingTree.
[30:22] Where did Betty's entrepreneurial spirit come from?
[31:07] What are some things that could help newer yoga teachers in terms of running a yoga business?
[34:27] Betty shares a story about her mother when she was young.
[36:22] What was Betty's first yoga class like?
[37:16] How does Betty prepare her class plans?
[41:05] Shannon shares her takeaways from this conversation with Betty.
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Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Just [in] conversations I have with people, it comes up that I'm a yoga teacher. And so it's just being known."
"It's just not being afraid to talk about what you do."
"If they show a little bit of interest, sometimes they need a little bit of a reminder that we had a conversation and I'm not afraid to do that."
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294: How to Plan a Yoga Photo Shoot with Gabriela Fearn
Description:
We all know the power of good images for websites and social media, but many yoga teachers don't know where to start when it comes to taking photos for their yoga business. How can you capture who you are as a yoga teacher? What kind of photos connect you with your ideal yoga students? What should you wear? Where is the best place for a photo shoot? Gabriela (aka. Gabby) Fearn has some recommendations.
Gabby Fearn is a portrait photographer, doula and yoga teacher with over 10 years of experience who is based in Sydney, Australia. Through the years Gabby has photographed many yoga studios and teachers and she ensures a stress-free experience by guiding her clients through the process every step of the way while capturing authentic and sincere photos.
Gabby explains the pros and cons of indoor vs outdoor photo shoots, why having a plan is helpful and how to plan for a photo shoot, considerations around props, music, hair and makeup and more. Gabby also shares why using just stock photos isn’t a great idea and why you shouldn’t wait till you “look better” or can “do better yoga” to take some professional photos. This is a practical episode where you will walk away with a list of takeaways to help you book, plan and carry out a yoga photo shoot that makes marketing easier.
Key Takeaways:
[3:29] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Gabriela (Gabby) Fearn.
[5:53] What does Gabby do and who does she do it for?
[7:18] Gabby is half-Colombian, half-Canadian who lives in Australia. She shares a little about how the weather impacts her work as a photographer.
[9:25] How do you choose a location for a photo shoot? Gabby highlights some of the pros and cons of indoor vs outdoor shoots.
[13:33] What should yoga teachers wear in their photo shoot?
[16:04] Gabby shares some suggestions about outfits for yoga teachers in a photo shoot.
[18:02] Planning the photo shoot in advance is key to getting the most out of it. Gabby shares some essential questions to guide your planning.
[19:06] Shannon pops in to share about OfferingTree which allows yoga teachers to easily set up a website.
[21:03] Gabby highlights some of the types of photographs you might need as a yoga teacher.
[23:15] Gabby recommends using Pinterest to refine your vision but avoid trying to copy these pictures because you are likely to be disappointed.
[25:03] What are some things that can help ease the awkwardness of having your photos taken?
[27:39] What are some things yoga teachers should bring along to a photo shoot?
[30:14] What does Gabby recommend for hair and makeup for a photo shoot?
[34:26] Gabby shares some tips about the photos you might choose for different parts of your website.
[36:27] Shannon and Gabby discuss the role of stock photos in marketing for yoga teachers.
[38:17] What are some other things yoga teachers should keep in mind as they plan their yoga photo shoot?
[40:30] It's really important for your photos to reflect the kind of yoga you offer and what your students are looking for.
[41:53] Find out more about Gabby's work on her website and connect with her on Instagram.
[46:03] Gabby's final tip is to take a bath at the end of a photo shoot!
[46:30] Shannon shares her takeaways from this conversation with Gabby.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Planning your session is key to getting the most out of it and making the most of your time."
"It's really important to think about your personal style and what you wear when you practice."
"Do I need a list of poses to bring with me to our session? I would say yes, it does really help."
"I want you to embrace who you are and we'll end up with beautiful photos of you no matter what."
"You want your photos to reflect you."
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293: Eating Disorder Recovery & Yoga with Vivian Selles
Description:
Eating disorders are a serious condition that can even be life threatening or fatal in some cases yet we may not always recognize that someone is experiencing an eating disorder. Globally, 9% of the world population are affected by eating disorders and this number is increasing each year. How can yoga teachers support people with eating disorders? Vivian Selles has some insights.
Vivian is an experienced registered yoga teacher and Yoga Alliance Continuing Education Provider (ERYT-200/YACEP). She teaches full-time in eating disorder recovery centers in Charlotte, NC, and uses her practice and teachings to cultivate positive change in the yoga community. As a yoga teacher, her intention is to create and hold safer, accessible spaces for people to connect to the practice and show up as they are. Vivian has also co-founded a local yoga coalition for equality.
Vivian explains why yoga teachers should avoid talking about how much or what to eat, and how this can feed into harmful diet culture. Vivian also shares many useful and practical tips around the language we use in our yoga classes, including how to avoid cues that may demonize certain body parts, excluding competitive and comparison language, as well as how we can make our language and cues more invitational and open-ended for students. Vivian highlights our scope of practice as yoga teachers in supporting people in eating disorder recovery and how having a referral team can help too.
Key Takeaways:
[4:38] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Vivian Selles.
[8:10] What does Vivian do and who does she do it for?
[10:39] What is diet culture?
[11:16] Dominant culture equates thinness with being healthy. How does this show up in yoga classes?
[13:20] Shannon and Vivian discuss cues and language that we use in yoga spaces that could demonize certain body parts.
[15:12] What does Vivian wish all yoga teachers knew going into a yoga class?
[17:46] Vivian highlights some specific language she avoids and some of her preferred cueing options.
[21:52] A lot of this starts with us doing our own internal work.
[31:04] Messages you might get in the yoga world around what you should eat, how you should move, what you should look like, etc do not align with yoga philosophy.
[34:19] Shannon pops in with a question from a member of the Connected Yoga Teacher Facebook group about OfferingTree.
[37:24] How does Vivian focus on yoga philosophy when teaching yoga?
[44:07] If you are interested in learning more, Vivian has some resources to recommend.
[48:52] Who are some other people who can offer support and are crucial for people in recovery?
[53:09] Our students can also become our teachers.
[58:11] Learn more about Vivian and connect with her via her website and social media.
[59:58] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this conversation with Vivian.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Diet culture is a system of beliefs that upholds a paradigm that equates thinness with being healthy and more morally virtuous."
"Considering your own internal experience is a starting point in terms of how we can be empathetic towards others."
"I exclude a lot of language that encourages perfection or encourages competition."
"How are my internal belief systems upholding diet culture?"
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292: Diet Culture and Yoga with Jessica Grosman & Elyssa Toomey
Description:
Diet culture is becoming more and more pervasive in the yoga world. It can show up in hidden and deliberate ways, and it is causing harm to our yoga students and it can be dangerous. Elyssa Toomey and Jessica Grosman are experts at the intersection of yoga, food, diet, and nutrition and have insights to share on the topic.
Elyssa Toomey is a Certified Eating Disorders Specialist and Supervisor (CEDS-S), Registered Dietitian Nutritionist (RDN) and Registered Yoga Teacher (RYT). She is an experienced anti-diet, Health at Every Size informed, weight-inclusive eating disorder dietitian who is passionate about helping people develop a peaceful relationship with food and their body. Elyssa specializes in helping clients heal from chronic dieting, disordered eating and eating disorders through 1:1 consultations and ongoing group and individual clinical supervision and case consultation.
Jessica Grosman is an Anti-Diet Registered Dietitian, Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor, Weight-Inclusive Health Practitioner and Yoga Teacher. Her mission is to help people get comfortable and connected with their own body through food and yoga. Jessica believes that all people have the right to health, regardless of size or medical condition. As both a Registered Dietitian and a Yoga Teacher, Jessica is qualified to address and educate on the topic of diet culture in yoga.
Elyssa and Jessica share their take on how yoga teachers may be contributing to diet/wellness culture in yoga spaces, how we can identify harmful behaviors, and what we can do about it. They also give tips on how to create safer spaces for all bodies and to use yoga as a way to foster connection between body, mind, and breath. Elyssa and Jessica offer guidance on the role of yoga teachers in disrupting diet culture and when it is appropriate for us to refer our students for professional help.
Key Takeaways:
[2:09] Shannon introduces her guests for this episode - Jessica Grosman & Elyssa Toomey.
[6:27] What do Jessica and Elyssa do and who do they do it for?
[8:57] Where does diet culture show up in the yoga world and yoga spaces?
[12:35] Jessica shares some examples of how yoga teachers may be perpetuating diet culture.
[16:10] Jessica and Elyssa encourage us to question what we mean when we say "health" or "healthy".
[18:53] How can yoga teachers who are not trained to speak about food, diet, or nutrition handle questions from students that buy into diet culture?
[21:09] Jessica highlights the fact that anybody and everybody can practice yoga and yoga goes beyond asana.
[22:05] Elyssa and Jessica are putting together a workshop about yoga and diet culture - Blurred Lines: The Harmful Intersection of Diet Culture & Yoga.
[25:21] We are all bombarded with diet culture messages from a very young age, so it can be difficult for us to break away from these thoughts.
[27:53] What can we do when we see or encounter harmful messages in yoga spaces or online?
[31:14] Social media can be dangerous in terms of the negative influence it can have but it is also possible to uplift and highlight the work of people doing beneficial things,
[33:27] Jessica and Elyssa share their thoughts around how we can create safer spaces for all students.
[36:44] We also need to pay attention to the language that we use when cueing poses or variations and modifications.
[38:34] Shannon pops in to share a quick teaching tip.
[41:54] What should yoga teachers do if they have students who may need to seek professional help?
[48:17] Jessica and Elyssa leave us with some final thoughts around diet culture in yoga.
[51:21] Find out more about Jessica and Elyssa on their websites or connect with them on social media.
[53:53] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this interview with Jessica and Elyssa.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Diet culture is a piece of this overall wellness culture... It is so pervasive, it's in everything that we do." - Elyssa
"As teachers, there is this level of respect that our students have for us or they're looking to us for direction, not only the physical direction of where to place your feet on the mat, but also sort of that bigger life direction." - Elyssa
"The scope of practice for a yoga teacher does not include anything related to food, diet or nutrition." - Jessica
"Our bodies are to be lived in and not looked at." - Elyssa
"Our worth as individuals has nothing to do with our weight and has nothing to do with our size." - Elyssa
"Anybody can have an opinion about any subject but opinions are not facts and opinions are not knowledge." - Jessica
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291: Better Balance with Susi Hately
Description:
Keeping their balance is something we may have noticed that older adults may find challenging, or something that we may ourselves have felt we need to improve as we age. How can yoga help with this? Susi Hately shares insights from her experience working with people on their balance.
Susi Hately is the founder of Functional Synergy and she helps people reveal and heal their human potential regardless of their age or condition. She also helps yoga teachers, yoga therapists and health care providers hone their talent and become excellent practitioners. Susi also teaches people, often over 50, 60 and 70 years of age, how to get out of pain and handle other symptoms that accompany aging. Susi combines her formal training in Kinesiology and deep knowledge of yoga to foster the magic of recovery and healing so that they can live well, with strength and ease, and better balance.
Susi shares how she was inspired to get into this line of work by her father who improved his balance and mobility through yoga. She outlines the key elements that contribute to balance and highlights the importance of asking students why they want to improve their balance. Susi also talks about joint mobility, rest, breath and breathing all impact balance, and tips to help our students (and ourselves!) maintain and improve balance as we get older.
Key Takeaways:
[2:27] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Susi Hately.
[5:06] What is the work that Susi does and who does she do it for?
[6:46] What got Susi interested in talking about balance?
[8:38] How did Susi's father get interested in yoga at the age of 79?
[9:30] What about yoga helps people improve their balance?
[11:13] What are the first steps Susi takes when someone specifically wants to improve their balance?
[12:50] How does Susi cater to people who may be fearful about their balance?
[14:34] What are some things Susi loves to share with students who want to work on their balance?
[16:33] What are some cues yoga teachers could be more mindful around when it comes to breathing?
[18:38] What does rest have to do with balance?
[20:57] What are Susi's thoughts on guiding people to the practice of yoga when they need to down regulate their nervous system?
[23:12] What kind of homework does Susi give her students to improve their balance?
[26:22] What are some movements related to balance that we take for granted that we can practice in a yoga class?
[30:13] Closing the eyes can be an important part of training people in their balance. How does Susi address students who may feel embarrassed or afraid of fumbling or falling over with their eyes closed?
[33:22] Shannon pops in with a quick message about the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[36:01 - 36:01] Susi highlights the fact that our bodies can change at any age and people can regain some of the mobility and ability that they may have lost.
[39:30] Why do people believe that they are destined to lose their mobility and ability to perform certain actions?
[44:00] Susi leaves us with some final things to remember as we work with students or work on our own balance.
[44:39] Find out more about Susi and her work at her website and check out her YouTube channel too.
[45:25] Shannon shares her key takeaway from this conversation with Susi.
[50:00] Shannon shares some upcoming offerings.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"The key components are what's going on in your inner ear, your stimulus system, what's going on visually as well as what's going on developmentally, like your motor control patterns and how your body moves."
"Rest and breathing are important to balance."
"The key is how can we help a system down regulate and have a system become too that restful state.... If we can settle and connect and be at ease, we'll find that the balance is a lot better."
"When you have the correct stimulus, all sorts of things can shift."
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290: Best Microphones for Online Yoga with Ashley Hagen
Description:
Many yoga teachers are teaching online these days and one thing is extremely important for online classes - sound quality. Having a good quality microphone can really help, but with so many options available, which do you choose without breaking your budget? Ashley Hagen has some advice for you in this episode.
Ashley Hagen is a yoga teacher, yoga teacher trainer, yoga studio owner, and business coach. She gets excited about all the things that support an online teacher or studio -- systems, software, and the technology needed to make it all run smoothly. Since moving into the online space, Ashley has become an expert in building an online yoga business - including what mics to use to teach online, on Zoom, and out in big outdoor spaces.
Ashley gives her recommendations on best mics for yoga teachers teaching online, suggestions to improve your sound quality as you are leading classes, and how to navigate some of the complex technology related to getting set up for Zoom and online classes. Ashley also shares how OfferingTree has been a useful resource for her and why she recommends it to yoga teachers, as well as how you can build confidence to teach online.
Key Takeaways:
[2:24] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Ashley Hagen.
[6:11] What is the work that Ashley does and who does she do it for?
[7:14] Did Ashley's business take off with the pandemic?
[8:32] What microphone does Ashley recommend for yoga teachers who want to teach online?
[11:50] Ashley has done a video comparing a whole bunch of different microphones that yoga teachers use. She shares a little about that.
[14:29] Shannon had a problem with adjusting the volume on her Rode microphone so she reached out to Ashley. Ashley explains how she set up her Rode mic to work.
[18:46] How can you play music on Zoom and still use a wireless mic?
[20:49] Ashley shares some tips on what to wear while teaching online so that your clothes don't interfere with the mic, and how to wear your mic.
[23:33] What are some mishaps Ashley has had while teaching online that she has learned from?
[26:10] If you're having problems with your mic, you might want to check the cables first!
[28:16] Ashley has some tips if you are teaching yoga outdoors.
[29:22] How does Ashley handle recording and editing her videos?
[32:00] Ashley has a quick tip about the kind of content you could be sharing on YouTube.
[32:46] Ashley shares her experience with using OfferingTree for her business.
[36:18] Would Ashley recommend OfferingTree for yoga teachers who are just getting started?
[40:04] What are Ashley's thoughts on yoga teachers not getting their offerings out first.
[41:56] Ashley shares some advice for yoga teachers who are feeling uncertain about whether they can teach online yoga.
[43:30] Learn more from Ashley through her website and connect with her on social media!
[44:14] Ashley outlines the information you can find in her PDF guide!
[45:09] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this interview with Ashley.
[46:12] Shannon did a little mic test to show the difference in sound for her between the Blue Yeti mic, her Airpods, and the Rode Wireless Go.
[49:39] Shannon highlights some of her key takeaways from this chat with Ashley.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"If that's the case for you where you ever feel like your mics are going bad, first check the cables."
"[One tip is] it's using a microphone for outdoor yoga to amplify your voice with a speaker."
"I wouldn't call myself an audio expert or a technology expert, but I'm a step or two ahead of people because I test things out. So I'm able to answer some questions."
"Yoga studios don't get students before they open their storefront. They open a studio first and then they get the students. It's kind of the same thing. You've got to open your virtual studio before you get people in the doors."
"Yoga studios don't get students before they open their storefront. They open a studio first and then they get the students. You've got to open your virtual studio before you get people in the doors."
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289: Limb Difference and Yoga with Melissa D'Errico
Description:
Many more people live with limb differences than we might realize. However, we are not taught as yoga teachers how to serve people with limb differences when they come into our classes or create more welcoming and comfortable spaces for them. Melissa D’Errico has some advice and insights to share.
Melissa D’Errico has had a lifelong love of movement. She started dance classes at a young age, and eventually found her way to yoga, earning multiple certifications in yoga in different modalities such as pre-natal yoga, yin yoga, yoga dance, and other forms of yoga. Melissa also offers healing energy work through Reiki. She currently teaches at the Yoga Center of Deerfield Beach, the Meditate School of Mindfulness and at Beyond Transformation and supports the Lucky Fin Project, nonprofit organization working to raise awareness and celebrate children and individuals born with symbrachydactyly or other limb differences (upper, lower, congenital, and amputee).
Melissa shares her story of being born with a limb difference and how that never stopped her from doing anything she felt called to. Melissa also shared some valuable insights around the language that we use around people with limb differences as well as what we as yoga teachers need to know when someone with a limb difference attends our classes.
This is a great opportunity to learn more about people with limb differences and how we can better serve them in our classes.
Key Takeaways:
[2:15] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Melissa D'Errico.
[5:15] What has Melissa's yoga journey been like? What is the work she currently does?
[7:17] Shannon and Melissa discuss her experience with yoga dance.
[9:26] Melissa lives in a body with a limb difference. She shares more about her experience.
[14:59] What should yoga teachers do when someone with a limb difference comes into their class?
[19:11] Melissa shares some insight about dealing with "uncomfortable moments" in a yoga class.
[20:34] What are some things around language and cues that Melissa would like yoga teachers to know and use?
[22:29] Shannon highlights some re-education she experienced at the Accessible Yoga Conference.
[25:18] Shannon shares a little about the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[27:43] What does Melissa say to people who have a limb difference that they were not born with and are feeling like it's a disability for them?
[30:54] What made Melissa stop calling her limb difference a birth defect?
[34:14] What are some things from yoga and yoga philosophy that Melissa has learned and applies to her life?
[35:16] Learn more about Melissa or join an online class with her!
[38:11] How does Melissa make her busy schedule work?
[40:25] Melissa shares some final thoughts about teaching students with a limb difference.
[41:06] Being a "helicopter yoga teacher" isn't helpful. Melissa explains more.
[42:24] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this episode.
[49:52] Shannon highlights some of her upcoming events and trainings.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"I teach yoga with a limb difference."
"You probably feel more uncomfortable than the person with a limb difference."
"We already know everything we need to know, we just need to remember."
"You got this... just lead with your heart, teach with your heart, the true yoga is in your heart and it'll all work out."
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288: Shavasana (śavāsana) with Indu Arora
Description:
Shavasana (śavāsana) is the final resting pose of almost every yoga practice but how much do we really know about and understand it? We may think of it as being a pose of resting or relaxation to cool off after a vigorous asana practice but it is much more than that. Indu Arora shares more.
Indu Arora considers herself a lifelong student and has spent the last 2 decades of her life studying, thinking and sharing Yoga and Ayurveda. She is a renowned author of SOMA - 100 Heritage Recipes for Self-Care, Yoga - Ancient Heritage, Tomorrow’s Vision, and Mudra: The Sacred Secret. She is a firm believer that “yoga is not to be learnt and done but explored and realized” and embodies this in her own life and practice. Indu travels extensively within the United States, Canada, Europe and India to teach and speak on Yoga, Yoga Nidra, Ayurveda and Mudras and her unique gift is in making Yoga and Ayurveda a practice which is equally useful for beginners as well as for seasoned seekers.
In this interview, we learn the correct Sanskrit pronunciation of Shavasana (and other asana!) and explore why the Sanskrit pronunciation is so important. Indu shares insights on what we are missing about Shavasana and the true purpose of this pose - as a preparation for death. Indu also answers some common questions we often encounter about Shavasana, such as how long it should be, and if it is okay to fall asleep during Shavasana. Indu offers some deep reflective questions for us to contemplate around why we practice yoga and how we can find, share, and face the truth through yoga. This is a great episode to listen to before your next yoga practice or before you do shavasana.
Key Takeaways:
[3:48] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Indu Arora.
[8:06] What does Indu do and who does she do it for?
[9:24] Indu believes that “Yoga is not to be learnt and done but explored and realized.” What does this mean?
[13:07] When did Indu's journey with yoga start?
[17:58] What is the Sanskrit pronunciation of Shavasana? Indu explains why pronunciation matters.
[24:32] If you are interested in learning more about asana names and meanings, check out Indu's book, Yoga - Ancient Heritage, Tomorrow’s Vision.
[25:38] What does Shavasana mean and what are we missing about it?
[31:36] Shannon pops in with a message about the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[35:33] People have some resistance in thinking about death and dying. How can we approach teaching about Shavasana and deal with that resistance?
[40:20] What elements could yoga teachers incorporate to build more of a practice like this?
[42:34] Indu invites us to consider why we are practicing yoga each time we do it, and to ask ourselves if we are becoming robotic in our approach.
[45:17] How long does Shavasana need to be? Does it always need to be at the end?
[53:13] Learn more from Indu and connect with her via her website, and social media.
[55:09] Shannon shares her biggest takeaways from this conversation with Indu.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Yoga is not to be done, it is to be explored and realized. It is a state of being, it is a state of mind, it is a state of emotions, it is a state of breath, all of this."
"What is the purpose of yoga and why are you sharing and why are you studying about it? And why are you thinking about it? Do not lose that focus."
"It is a rehearsal for death."
"Shavasana is the practice of Pratyahara, it's a conscious letting go."
"Yoga is not a feel-good practice, it is a face-the-truth practice."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
287: Insurance for International Yoga with Beth McVeigh & Joe Fagan
Description:
Many yoga teachers have been curious about insurance for yoga teachers teaching abroad and teaching online to international students - particularly in light of the COVID pandemic. What kind of coverage do you need? Do you need people to sign a waiver? What happens if you can’t control who watches your videos? Beth McVeigh and Joe Fagan have the answers to these questions and more.
Beth is a Commercial Insurance Manager specializing in insurance for Complementary Health practitioners and Studio, Clinic and Spa owners based in Canada. Along with her experienced and knowledgeable team of insurance advisors, Beth helps clients navigate the insurance coverage they need for their practice. Joe Fagan is the Director of Strategic Partnerships for Beyogi. He helps to create relationships within the yoga community to generate exposure for all involved. Joe is a US-based insurance provider for yoga teachers.
Beth and Joe share more about what kind of insurance yoga teachers need when teaching online to international students, sharing yoga on shared platforms, or if they are traveling to teach in-person and abroad. They also explain the legal considerations yoga teachers should be mindful of when it comes to waivers and COVID, and how to navigate getting insurance if you’re planning to relocate and teach yoga in another country.
Disclaimer: The material presented in this podcast is for general informational purposes only. Please consult with your local insurance agent for specific advice or services needed.
Key Takeaways:
[2:27] Shannon introduces the topic for this episode, which was inspired by questions and comments from the Connected Yoga Teacher community.
[4:36] Shannon has a few announcements about upcoming events and trainings.
[8:04] Shannon introduces her guests for this episode - Beth McVeigh and Joe Fagan.
[11:17] What is yoga insurance and what gets Joe and Beth excited about helping yoga teachers with their insurance?
[13:52] Why is it important for yoga teachers to have insurance, and what gets Beth excited about her work?
[15:16] What are some considerations with teaching yoga online? Is there a difference between live classes and pre-recorded classes, and does it make a difference who signs up?
[18:42] What can yoga teachers do if they are not able to keep track of who is watching their videos online? Beth and Joe explain how insurance works for yoga teachers going outside their country of coverage.
[24:02] Beth clarifies how it would work if a yoga teacher who has international web-based consulting coverage posts a video on Instagram and someone from a different country watches it and gets hurt as a result.
[25:37] It is hard to provide blanket statements about which specific situations are covered and which aren't, so it would be best to check with your local advisor for any specific cases you are concerned about.
[27:21] What should yoga teachers be aware of if they are planning to travel to another country to host a yoga teacher training or retreat?
[29:22] If a yoga teacher is planning to relocate to another country, should they look into insurance before traveling or should they wait to get to their new location?
[31:17] Shannon pops in with a quick note about the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[33:44] What are the steps a yoga teacher should take if they are planning to go away for a whole year to teach yoga abroad? How is it different if they're relocating?
[37:14] What are some other things yoga teachers should know about teaching online to people outside their country?
[41:02] What has changed with waivers because of Covid?
[48:09] Joe offers his clients a template of a waiver when they enroll into his program as well as other helpful resources available on the website.
[50:45] If you are based in Canada and you work with Beth and her team, you will have 24/7 access to a group of lawyers.
[53:30] If you are in the US, find out more about getting yoga teacher insurance with BeYogi and in Canada, do check in with Beth for your best options!
[55:00] Shannon shares her biggest takeaways from this interview.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"Yoga insurance or liability insurance for yoga instructors, it's ultimately all designed for protection." - Joe Fagan
"We are definitely heading into a new age of claims, so it's good to make sure that [yoga teachers are] properly covered for it."
"It's very crucial to any type of online environment to have some type of disclaimer or waiver that can be signed before admitting somebody into that." - Joe
"It's always a good idea - whatever event you're doing, if it's outside of your normal scope of practice - to talk to an agent." - Joe
"Make sure that we know every single detail of your business structure because that's the only way that we can properly make sure that you're insured." - Beth
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286: Yoga Around the World with Lily Allen-Duenas
Description:
Have you ever wanted to teach yoga around the world but weren’t sure where to get started? Perhaps you have wondered how the yoga community differs from country to country. Lily Allen-Duenas shares her insights as a yoga teacher who travels the world and also as a podcaster who has interacted with yoga teachers and students from all around the globe.
Lily Allen-Duenas is an international yoga and meditation instructor, a holistic health and wellness coach, and a Reiki master healer. She strives to help people reduce their emotional overload, and find balance, breath, and space for self-care. Lily is the founder of the Wild Yoga Tribe and the host of the Wild Yoga Tribe podcast. She has taught yoga classes and wellness workshops all over the world.
In this episode, Lily shares some of her tips for getting started with teaching yoga while traveling the world and the different things she has learned about different cultures in different countries. Lily offers suggestions on how to find and secure yoga jobs abroad and what to look out for to avoid scams. As a writer and marketer, Lily also has some great strategies around her podcast marketing strategy and navigating social media.
Key Takeaways:
[1:11] Shannon shares one of the resources she is learning from about social justice.
[4:07] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Lily Allen-Duenas
[7:34] What does Lily do and who does she do it for?
[10:17] What are some differences Lily has observed in talking with yoga teachers around the world?
[12:06] What is something surprising that Lily has learned about different cultures as she interviews different yoga teachers?
[15:54] Interacting with people from different cultures or backgrounds can challenge out preconceived notions.
[17:37] What is Lily's advice for people who want to travel and teach yoga? How can they do that?
[24:06] Lily walks us through some of her podcast marketing strategies.
[29:24] Shannon pops in with a message about OfferingTree.
[31:33] What are Lily's tips for staying on track with her marketing strategy for her podcast?
[35:16] Lily shares her biggest tips to make marketing on Instagram easier for yoga teachers.
[40:28] Shannon and Lily discuss having boundaries on social media and showing up authentically.
[47:01] Find out more about Lily and her work via her podcast, website, and social media.
[51:52] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this episode as well as some other resources for listeners.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"How do I find work and especially if I want to do it in a different country, it can seem really difficult."
"I think we're in a smaller world than we've ever been in before and ... I just love the possibilities."
“[For marketing,] I think it's important to have that routine and the rhythm and then of course to do it in a way that feels mission aligned."
"Sharing anything and everything you can think of related to your niche and then doing that in a way that really serves your audience will help of course grow the community."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
285: Mental Health Aware Yoga with Dr. Lauren Tober
Description:
Nearly one in five U.S. adults live with a mental illness and 1 in 3 Canadians will be affected by a mental illness during their lifetime. Globally, there is an upward trend in the number of people living with and impacted by mental health conditions. This means we may have students in our classes with mental health conditions that we don’t know about. How can we best support these students within our scope of practice? Dr. Lauren Tober shares more.
Dr Lauren Tober is a Clinical Psychologist, Yoga Teacher and certified iRest Meditation Teacher with a passion for health, healing, happiness and awakening. She is the founder of Awake Psychology, an online Australia-wide psychology practice, the Centre for Mind Body Wellness in Mullumbimby (Australia) and teaches Yoga Teachers around the world about mental health with the Mental Health Aware Yoga training. Lauren has also created several acclaimed online courses, and her work has been featured in many publications.
Lauren explains what is and isn’t in our scope of practice as yoga teachers when it comes to mental health, and how we can support people with mental health conditions without overstepping our boundaries. Lauren also offers tips on what to do when someone cries in a yoga class, how to create a safe container in a yoga class that may have students with mental health issues we don’t know about, and how we can support students outside of yoga.
Key Takeaways:
[2:13] Shannon shares a book she is learning a lot from - One Native Life by Richard Wagamese.
[4:44] Shannon has a few announcements to share about upcoming events and offerings.
[8:16] Shannon introduces the guest for this episode - Dr. Lauren Tober.
[11:36] What does Lauren do and who does she do it for?
[13:23 - 13:24] Lauren reminds us that we may not know when our students are going through mental health challenges.
[15:55] What lies within the scope of practice for yoga teachers when it comes to helping people with their mental health?
[18:41] Lauren works with yoga teachers around mental health to give them enough information to help their students.
[21:17] It is common for people to break down and cry in yoga classes. What should yoga teachers do in that moment?
[26:34] What might Lauren say to someone who cried during the yoga class to check in with them at the end of the class?
[27:39] What should yoga teachers do if students start to open up about their struggles or mental health challenges?
[30:06] Lauren recommends having a list of professionals you can refer people to - e.g. doctors, naturopaths, psychologists.
[34:13] What is something related to mental health challenges that Lauren wishes yoga teachers knew.
[38:12] What are Lauren's thoughts on using touch in a yoga class?
[43:49] Shannon pops in with a warning about strong language.
[45:12] Shannon gives a shout out to sponsor OfferingTree.
[48:42] There is a common misconception among yoga teachers that if you do enough yoga, you don't need any mental health support. Lauren shares her thoughts on this.
[54:01] Find out more about Lauren and her work on her website and check out her special website around yoga for mental health.
[56:09] Shannon shares her biggest takeaways from this interview.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"We don't necessarily know someone is going through stuff, [or] going through some mental health challenges."
"You need to really get clear on what your scope of practice is and make sure you stay within that and if you feel tempted to do some counseling or offer massage or whatever it is, … go and get some training in that area so you can broaden your scope of practice and include that in your offering."
"Yoga has an amazing role to play in terms of supporting mental wellness and supporting people who are going through mental health challenges."
"Supporting somebody going through mental health challenges is creating a space where someone can come and feel safe. "
"To be present with someone else, from one human being to another human being, to be really present is such a gift."
"Having conversations about consent and touch is really powerful."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
284: Beyond Pronouns and Pride Month with Shannon Crow
Description:
How can we make our yoga classes more inclusive and accessible? The truth is, sometimes we can mess up and make mistakes even when we try to create safer spaces in our yoga classes. We may cause harm without realizing it - that’s why it is a huge gift when someone points out how we are causing harm.
The work of continuous learning goes beyond simply using the right pronouns and extends far beyond Pride month. These are complex and nuanced issues - we have to strive to continuously educate ourselves. In this episode, Shannon Crow shares the email from a listener that inspired this conversation as well as resources for you if you are keen to continue learning how to create safer, more accessible yoga spaces for people in the LGBTQIA+ community.
Key Takeaways:
[3:24] Shannon shares a book she has been enjoying and learning from recently.
[6:56] This episode was inspired by a brave email sent by a podcast listener in response to Episode 275 about being kicked out of yoga class.
[9:00] Shannon shares the email from the listener.
[10:44] Even when we want to create safe spaces, we may not succeed. We may also cause harm to others and it is a huge gift when they communicate that with us.
[11:58] Our continuous learning journey goes beyond Pride month.
[13:03] We can spread our learning and collaboration requests out to span the entire year, instead of just in Pride month.
[14:12 Shannon has some resources for you if you want to create an inclusive yoga space in all months of the year, not just in June.
[20:54 - 20:59] Shannon shares what OfferingTree is putting together for yoga studios.
[22:43] Shannon highlights some of the podcast episodes listeners can learn from as well as trainings available.
[27:50] We can all learn from each other if we're willing to share and be vulnerable about where we messed up.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"This continuous learning journey, I really think this goes beyond Pride Month."
"Please don't be the business that sticks a pride flag on their website in june only to then take it down and forget all about the social justice issue the rest of the year."
"It is very nuanced and it's like we don't know what we don't know and in the meantime we might be causing harm."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
283: Teach Yoga Without Demos with Francesca Cervero
Description:
Do you demonstrate yoga asanas when you teach? Do you wish you could do fewer demos in a class but don’t know how? How can we start doing that in our classes? Francesca Cervero explains how she teaches yoga without demos and how other yoga teachers can too.
Francesca Cervero has been teaching yoga full-time since 2005. Inspired by her foundational training at OM Yoga Center, the years she spent as a dancer, and subsequently in physical therapy, Francesca’s teaching is also influenced by her love of Buddhist teachings and a constant curiosity about anatomy and biomechanics. Francesca offers private 1:1 yoga classes, mentors yoga teachers in The Science of the Private Lesson™, hosts the podcast The Mentor Sessions: Support & Strategy for Yoga Teachers, and is the founder of the adjoining community, The Mentor Sessions Sangha.
Francesca explains the benefits of teaching without demos and how we can start to teach without doing demos in yoga classes. She shares her tips like sitting on your hands while teaching and how to cue effectively as well as how to ease the transition if you currently rely on demos to teach. Francesca also shares how she counters pushback like “people are visual learners” and what to do when accessibility is a factor and we need to share demos.
Key Takeaways:
[2:13] Shannon shares a podcast she is learning from.
[6:13] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Francesca Cervero.
[10:05] Shannon gives a shout out to the sponsor, OfferingTree.
[12:48] What does Francesca do and who does she do it for?
[14:18] What does Francesca do in terms of demonstrations vs no demonstrations as she is teaching.
[16:43] What are some of the benefits of not doing demos?
[19:58] You might feel inclined to demonstrate because you're feeling nervous. Francesca addresses this and shares some tips that can help.
[25:16] The only way to gain the skills to teach without demonstrating is to practice them.
[27:29] Recording yourself teaching with just your voice can be a helpful technique to get better at teaching without demonstrating.
[30:40] How does Francesca deal with that awkward moment when people in the class are waiting to see a demonstration because that's what they've become used to?
[36:15] Teaching without demonstrating isn't black-and-white. The key is to focus on the student and what cues might help them.
[40:14] Shannon and Francesca discuss the difference between teaching yoga and doing yoga for your own practice.
[41:26] What can yoga teachers do when they're teaching online and their students want to have their video off?
[49:02] Find out more about Francesca and how to work with her via her podcast, mentor sessions, and her community.
[49:34] Francesca addresses two scenarios that yoga teachers may have questions about - teaching beginners without demos and teaching in situations with a language barrier or to people who are deaf and hard of hearing.
[53:01] Shannon shares her biggest takeaways from this interview with Francesca.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree.
Quotes from this episode:
"It's obviously not sustainable to need to constantly use our body to share information about movement."
"When we exclusively use our body to share information about movement, I think that it puts the emphasis or the focus on the aesthetic of the shape rather than the experience or the potential benefit, which will look radically different person to person."
"I prefer teaching with my words because I think it places the emphasis for the student more on what they're experiencing as opposed to what their body looks like."
"The only way to gain the skills to teach without demonstrating is to practice them."
"The real heart of teaching is in relationship. If you can't see them, then that's not there."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
282: What's Missing? Yoga Class Notes with Kathryn Anne Flynn
Description:
Have you ever been to a yoga class and noticed that something is missing? Perhaps it was the cues given, or the postures practices, or even the sequence of the class. There are certain key elements that we need to have to make a well-rounded yoga class and we might be missing some of them! Kathryn Anne Flynn shares her expertise on this topic and how we can make our classes more accessible to all.
Kathryn Anne Flynn is a teacher and student of yoga, meditation, Ayurveda, and psychotherapy in Ottawa, Canada. She is known for weaving together her fields of study and practice tools to meet life with a compassionate presence. Students of many generations call her their teacher and they are drawn to her inclusivity and authenticity. Kathryn is also the host of the Intelligent Edge Yoga Podcast, author of Teach Kind, Clear Yoga, and offers online practices as well as trainings, workshops, and retreats.
Kathryn shares her insights about some of the key elements missing from yoga classes (especially with newer teachers) such as silence, little joint care, and music and playlists, and gives us tips on how we can effectively incorporate these into our yoga classes to become better teachers and create a better environment for our yoga students. This is a really motivating episode to get inspiration about how to improve on your classes and create a better environment for our yoga students.
Key Takeaways:
[0:00] Shannon addresses the recent US Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade.
[1:45] This episode is also sponsored by the Accessible Yoga Continuing Education Program.
[8:33] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Kathryn Anne Flynn.
[11:55] You can win one of Kathryn's books simply by leaving a comment in the show notes!
[13:04] What does Kathryn do and who does she do it for?
[14:37] What got Kathryn interested in her work around psychotherapy and trauma therapy, from being a yoga educator?
[17:29] Kathryn is the author of Teach Kind, Clear Yoga. What was her motivation for writing the book and what feedback has she received about it?
[19:31] There are often trends in things that are missing from new yoga teachers' classes. Kathryn reflects on how she made this observation.
[22:14] A reminder for people going through their yoga teacher training: Teaching yoga is never going to be as hard as it is in your training.
[24:01] Something that is often missing even from experienced teachers' classes is silence.
[26:09] Another element often missing in yoga classes is little joint care.
[28:53] There is value in simplicity and repetition.
[32:33] A tip for new teachers - if you are nervous when teaching yoga, you can use music to support your teaching and create atmosphere in your classes.
[33:54] Shannon pops in to share a conversation she had with Sara Villamil about OfferingTree.
[36:11] Is music essential to a yoga class or can we teach without it? Shannon and Kathyrn share their perspectives.
[43:07] Kathryn shares some tips around what to consider when sequencing your yoga class.
[48:33] You can bring creativity into sequencing your yoga classes.
[50:16] Kathryn developed her own personal style of yoga because of the communities she worked with and paying attention to their needs.
[53:05] Kathryn highlights two types of postures that are often missing from yoga classes.
[59:30] What are some final thoughts Kathryn has for a yoga teacher who is feeling like something is missing from their class?
[60:39] Get Kathryn's book and connect with her via her website and social media.
[62:24] Shannon shares her key takeaways from this interview with Kathryn.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Accessible Yoga Continuing Education Program.
Quotes from this episode:
"Teaching yoga is never going to be as hard as it is in your training."
"Reviewing your teaching can remain uncomfortable and it's worth it."
"If you design your classes in a way that folks are safe doing the practice, you can have faith in the resilience of the human body - which means you can have faith in the potency of silence and restrain yourself to offer more space because people need silence so badly if their lives are super busy and loud."
"I think it's important to be able to teach and practice both with and without [music]. It's just another tool that you need to know how and when to apply it."
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
281: Yoga Teaching Tips with Gabrielle Harris
Description:
Whether you’re fresh out of a yoga teacher training or have been teaching yoga for years, there is always something new to learn about becoming a better teacher. Gabrielle Harris shares actionable tips for yoga teachers that you can start implementing in your classes and using right away.
Gabrielle describes herself as a writer at heart and a yogi in mind and body. Her aim is to inspire students and teachers from all disciplines to keep falling in love with yoga each new day. Gabrielle has over 1000 hours of training in various disciplines and traditions, and through her written work and yoga classes reminds us to start living a full life through the toolbox of yoga. She is also the author of The Language of Yin and The Inspired Yoga Teacher.
Gabrielle talks about her journey in writing these two books, how to teach yoga to beginners, and why language is so important and powerful in yoga. Gabrielle also shares her thoughts on what makes a good yoga teacher and why our job is to watch, listen and observe, rather than centering ourselves in our teaching. She offers some tips on the different types of cues we might use, how to practice nonviolent communication, and encourages us to reflect on our responsibility as yoga teachers.
Key Takeaways:
[0:00] Shannon addresses the recent US Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade.
[2:30] This episode is also sponsored by the Accessible Yoga Continuing Education Program.
[5:58] Shannon shares one of the resources she has been learning from - Buffy on CBC.
[9:06] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Gabrielle Harris.
[12:31] What does Gabrielle do and who does she do it for?
[13:11] Gabrielle shares more about the two books she has written.
[14:24] What has helped Gabrielle get through the long process of writing books and teaching yoga?
[15:26] Gabrielle has teaching experience outside of yoga. She explains how that has shaped how she teaches yoga.
[18:07] How can yoga teachers cut out the fluff and get to the very essential parts of yoga when teaching beginners?
[19:53] How does Gabrielle apply what she learned in teaching a language to a yoga teacher training?
[23:15] It can be tempting to try to fill space with words, but it is important to be intentional instead.
[25:14] How can we practice self-editing?
[27:05] Why do we often feel the need to fill silence with words?
[30:02] As yoga teachers, sharing parts of your life can be very powerful, but only under certain circumstances. It can be useful to become the listener instead.
[33:22] What are some things that can help improve our teaching technique?
[35:43] Timing and pace are also very important for a yoga class.
[38:37] Shannon pops in with an update about OfferingTree, sponsor of the podcast.
[41:30] How can yoga teachers manage the timing of their flow and sequence?
[44:03] Gabrielle shares some tips around different types of cues you can give in a yoga class and examples of what that may look like.
[49:44] Using questions in teaching is a great technique to center the students instead of the teacher.
[52:15] How does Gabrielle handle questions from students who ask where they should be feeling a pose or how to be experiencing a movement?
[56:21] Gabrielle shares some thoughts around the responsibility we have as yoga teachers.
[59:58] What does Gabrielle wish she had known as a newer teacher?
[61:04] Find out more about Gabrielle and her work by checking out her work and the links below.
[62:46] You can win a copy of one of Gabrielle's books!
[65:27] Shannon shares her biggest takeaways from this interview with Gabrielle.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsors, OfferingTree and Accessible Yoga Continuing Education Program.
Quotes from this episode:
"It is much more difficult to be precise and concise and essential." - Gabrielle
"If you want to know what the essence of what you're trying to teach is, you need to go back to what your intention is for that class." - Gabrielle
"There's different types of cueing and there's a place for all of them." - Gabrielle
"I want the teachers out there to assume that everything that we're saying, everything that we do in a yoga class has a propensity to change or to harm or to heal." - Gabrielle
The Connected Yoga Teacher Podcast
280: Get Paid as a Yoga Teacher with Shannon Simmons
Description:
As yoga business owners, we may feel conflicted around making money and getting paid for sharing yoga and helping others. However, being able to get paid for the work that you do ensures that you will be able to continue serving others with your yoga. So how do you make sure that you can pay yourself a consistent salary? Shannon Simmons shares how to organize your finances and get paid consistently as a yoga teacher.
Shannon is the founder and CEO of Fit For Profit. Her goal is to remove the stress that wellness business owners often feel around finances, by helping them implement simple systems around money management. By helping them create financial systems in their business that allow them to pay themselves a consistent salary, Shannon enables them to worry less about paying bills and focus on building a sustainable business.
In this episode, Shannon S. addresses some of the concerns yoga entrepreneurs have around making money and getting paid, and encourages us to shift our mindset and thinking about our businesses. She explains how the Profit First system helps yoga teachers make a profit in their business and build a more sustainable business that is able to deal with emergency expenses and taxes while paying yourself a consistent salary. If you are ready to start making profits in your yoga business, this episode is for you.
Key Takeaways:
[0:00] Shannon addresses the recent US Supreme Court decision to overturn Roe v Wade.
[3:54] Shannon shares some of the resources she has been learning from.
[6:09] Shannon introduces her guest for this episode - Shannon Simmons.
[12:12] What does Shannon S. do and who does she do it for?
[13:19] What is the Profit First system of accounting?
[15:15] Setting up multiple bank accounts can be a challenge! What are Shannon S's thoughts around that?
[16:07] Shannon S. has a list of banks she recommends for people wanting to implement Profit First.
[16:31] How does Profit First differ from the typical way of managing finances in a business?
[20:04] Apart from the account for profit, what are the other accounts we should have in this system?
[22:04] Paying yourself as the owner is separate from your profit! Shannon S. explains further.
[24:09] How does Shannon S. respond to wellness professionals or yoga teachers who think that they shouldn't be making their business about profit?
[25:48] What are some of Shannon S.'s tips to implement the Profit First system?
[27:29] Shannon S. recommends raising your rates annually.
[31:15] Get your bank statement and start looking at all your expenses. Which ones can you reduce?
[33:09] Shannon C. and Shannon S. discuss how useful it can be to have someone on your team to have eyes on your finances.
[33:59] If you only have one account for income and expenses, Shannon S. recommends making the transfers every time you get a deposit. How often should you pay yourself profits?
[36:20] What happens to the other half of the profits that you don't pay to yourself?
[37:29] Shannon C. pops in with tip about using OfferingTree for memberships.
[40:27] Many yoga teachers and entrepreneurs don't have a separate business bank account and they aren't paying attention to their finances! Shannon S. shares some tips on that.
[43:45] Don't wait till it's time to do your taxes to figure out if you made a profit or not!
[44:52] What are some of the roadblocks that come up for entrepreneurs?
[47:10] Shannon S. shares some percentages that people can start off at to implement Profit First in their business.
[50:42] What are some tips to get to being able to pay ourselves a salary of 50% of revenue?
[53:45] Get support from Shannon S. in setting up Profit First for your business. Connect with her via her website.
[58:17] What is your biggest takeaway? What action step will you be taking from this interview? Shannon C. shares how she's applying insights from this interview to her business.
Links:
Gratitude to our Sponsor, OfferingTree and Pelvic Health Professionals.
Quotes from this episode:
"You are your own best employees. So you need to be paying yourself as if you were an employee." - Shannon S.
"The only way to help people is to be profitable and the only way that you can truly be profitable is if you're really helping people." - Shannon S.
"If you have any resistance to five [bank accounts], you don't have to do five. Just start with one. That's the very basic process to get started." - Shannon S.
"Most people aren't profitable before they implement Profit First. That's the dirty little secret." - Shannon S.
